Week 12

[James Rhine]

I win HoH! My main stratey was working with Cassandra. I was hoping one of us would win it, and I'm glad I did!

I knew immediately what I was going to do for nominations. So I decided to have a little chat with the future nominees.

[17:07] rhineman5: so here's my plan
[17:08] rhineman5: i nominate you two,, and we backdoor karen
[17:08] rhineman5: and i'm serious about it
[17:08] Russell: What if Karen wins the POV?
[17:08] rhineman5: this is our last chance to get rid of karen
[17:08] rhineman5: karen needs to go this round
[17:08] Russell: Agreed but.
[17:08] rhineman5: if we dont win pov, she's gonna win the whole thing
[17:08] rhineman5: i'm fighting my ass off to win pov
[17:09] rhineman5: and with you guys on the block, you guys will obviously too
[17:09] rhineman5: im gonna make it seem
[17:09] rhineman5: to karen
[17:09] rhineman5: that i dont like that you two are aligned
[17:09] rhineman5: yada yada
[17:09] rhineman5: to make her feel comfortable enough not to compete hard
[17:09] rhineman5: my entire intention this week is to get rid of karen
[17:10] Josh: wait, youre nominating BOTH of us???
[17:10] rhineman5: yes sir
[17:10] rhineman5: this is coming from a purely strategic mindframe
[17:10] Josh: why not play it safe and get both of them nominated to start out with?
[17:10] rhineman5: i spoke with cassandra, and she said she would use the veto on either one of you to backdoor karen
[17:11] rhineman5: this is the only way i can ensure karen goes
[17:11] Josh: no, its not
[17:11] rhineman5: 4/5 people will use the veto on you guys
[17:11] Josh: i am not about to sit here and be a fucking pawn in your lame-ass strategy
[17:11] Josh: like seriously...
[17:11] rhineman5: i'm willing to take the rido you really wanna go there josh?
[17:12] rhineman5: dont start cussing at me
[17:12] rhineman5: i can change gears real quick

*whip crack*

[17:12] Josh: i'm sorry :-\
[17:12] Josh: i just dont like the idea of being a pawn :-\
[17:12] rhineman5: this is what's going to happen
[17:12] rhineman5: i'm nominating you both
[17:12] rhineman5: one of us four is going to win veto
[17:12] rhineman5: the veto will be used
[17:12] rhineman5: karen goes home
[17:12] rhineman5: end of story
[17:12] Josh: what if karen wins tho???
[17:12] Josh: :-\
[17:12] Josh: thats my concern
[17:13] rhineman5: that's my point
[17:13] rhineman5: i want karen gone this week
[17:13] rhineman5: every time she wins veto, she's been nominated
[17:13] rhineman5: i'm doing my best to make her feel comfortable
[17:13] rhineman5: like im on her side
[17:13] Josh: right, but if she wins veto this time one of us is gone
[17:13] rhineman5: i can still talk to her about using it
[17:13] rhineman5: but at the end of the day, if karen wins veto, she's most likely going to make final 2
[17:14] rhineman5: she beats all of us at competitions
[17:14] rhineman5: so we all need to feel the pressure of winning veto THIS round
[17:14] rhineman5: no more playing it safe and being comfortable
[17:14] rhineman5: im tired of her being in the house
[17:14] rhineman5: all our asses are on the line
[17:14] rhineman5: so lets give 100% this veto competition and pull out a win
[17:14] Josh: i still think its better to nominate her from the beginning, we will still fight man, i dont understand why you think we wont
[17:14] Josh: i dont have to be nominated to give 100%....
[17:15] rhineman5: b/c history's shown that karen wins veto when shes nominated
[17:15] rhineman5: so hopefully, if shes not nominated, she'll be less likely to win
[17:15] Josh: fuck history! this is NOW!
[17:15] Josh: dude, you are making a mistake...
[17:15] rhineman5: i assure you im not
[17:15] rhineman5: i played this game before
[17:15] rhineman5: i know what it takes to win
[17:15] rhineman5: my options are limited
[17:15] Josh: LOL i've played before too
[17:15] rhineman5: and it sucks b/c i am the closest to you guys in the house
[17:15] Josh: NUMEROUS ORGS... NUMEROUS WINS
[17:16] rhineman5: but this is the move i'm going to make
[17:16] Josh: then why are you doing it? your options are NOT limited
[17:16] Josh: i dont understand...
[17:16] Josh: i dont get it
[17:16] rhineman5: like or dislike it, this is what's happening
[17:16] Josh: then fuck you man..... FUCK YOU!!!!
[17:16] rhineman5: lol
[17:16] Josh: this game is ONNNNNN!!!!!
[17:16] rhineman5: interesting

*Josh leave chatroom*

*James blocks Josh on AIM*

[17:16] Russell: oh. my. god.
[17:17] rhineman5: you were so quiet
[17:17] Russell: LOL
[17:17] rhineman5: lol
[17:17] Russell: I was thinking
[17:17] rhineman5: well josh needs to be put in check
[17:17] Russell: I'm down with your plan
[17:17] rhineman5: i appreciate that
[17:17] rhineman5: i have the best intentions
[17:17] Russell: I beleive you.
[17:17] rhineman5: but i know some people without strategy cant see past the fact im nominating them
[17:18] rhineman5: theres no way im letting you leave this week russ
[17:18] rhineman5: no way
[17:18] Russell: So the veto would be used on me?
[17:18] rhineman5: if i won yeah
[17:18] rhineman5: the whole point is for the veto to be used
[17:18] Russell: mhm
[17:18] rhineman5: thats the plan
[17:19] rhineman5: but if its not, then josh goes
[17:19] rhineman5: *shrugs*
[17:19] Russell: Yeah..
[17:19] rhineman5: man, josh irritates me
[17:19] Russell:
[17:19] rhineman5: i have to pull myself apart from the situation
[17:19] rhineman5: and look at the bigger picture
[17:20] rhineman5: b/c im down for going after josh now
[17:20] rhineman5: but thats not the wisest thing to do
[17:20] Russell: mhm..
[17:21] Russell: Well at the end of the day you know that even if you nominate me this round I am not coming after you
[17:22] rhineman5: yeah, and I'm so appreciative of all the things you've done for me this game
[17:22] rhineman5: i hate to have to put you in the line of fire
[17:22] rhineman5: but from a strategic standpoint, it makes the most sense to me at this moment
[17:22] rhineman5: and i hope you forgive me
[17:22] Russell: mhm
[17:23] rhineman5: but I have to follow my instincts
[17:23] Russell: Josh might just be worried that you're working with Karen.
[17:24] rhineman5: you're talking to him?
[17:24] rhineman5: i blocked him
[17:24] rhineman5: i dont deal with that childish crap
[17:24] Russell: LOL not really talking to him he's just complaining to me
[17:25] rhineman5: well, i hope you know im not
[17:25] Russell: i know

I'll crop this convo later.

Josh made a mistake not playing it cool. Even if you're against the plan, don't make it seem that way to the HoH. You're reaction might guarantee Karen to stay another week. I refuse to let this nobody take Karen's 5th place spot on the memory wall.

It's time to shake things up a bit here. Game on.

[James Rhine]

PM from Josh:

Hey man... look, if you are willing to go on AIM and talk with me, I would appreciate it. I was just about to delete that post. I promise to talk civilized... I figured you would target me after my rant anyways. But dude, I'm just really bummed. I feel like we had a thing going and now I am nominated. I see the move you are trying to make, I am just saddened that it involved me being nominated, that's all.

Like I said, I would like to talk with you... no swearing I promise. And if you still come after me, well I'll reep what I sowed. But you have to understand the anger... I feel like you would be upset if you were nominated too... :/

[James Rhine]

My response:

No I wouldn't be. And you are completely out of line with everything you did. Realize that if you go home this week, it's completely your doing. I wanted Karen gone, but like I said, you reacted very poorly.

I'm not going on AIM. I don't have time to deal with that. If you delete your post I'll delete mine.

I understand your frustrations, but at the end of the day, I didn't have to tell you anything. At least some consideration should go in that I came to your face telling you my intentions rather than just doing it behind your back with no heads up at all. And my intentions were to keep you. Being nominated does not mean you're going home. We're down to five. Most likely than not, you'll be nominated if you're not HoH.

I'm just disappointed on how you handled things.

But this could be good too. If we keep this "feud" going, Karen may think I really could be targeting you. But with you revealing the plan to backdoor her is just gonna make her try that much harder in the veto.

Homework time!

[James Rhine]

Josh's response:

Okay, I'll delete my post. I am sorry for how I acted. I had a long day today and I just snapped on you. I do appreciate you for telling be ahead of the time, I'd rather have it that way. It just sucks lol. I'm still going to try my hardest, please know that. You and I have played most of this game together and I would hate for it to end so soon.

[James Rhine]

My response:

Me too. I'll delete my post as well.

After 24 hours, I'll unblock you

[James Rhine]

His response:

Lol, deal.

Again, I'm sorry. And I realize it may still mean I am the target, but I don't want to go out like an ass.

[James Rhine]

My response:

Nah, you won't be my target. As long as you keep it cool from here on out.

I figured you were just a pot of boiling water that needed to be cooled down. Anyway, I hope you trust enough to know that you or Russell won't go home this week. Let's win veto!

...And no, I don't have a deal with Karen

[James Rhine]

His response:

Haha, thats a good description... I think I'm cooled off now lol. And thanks man for understanding. I try to be good from now on. And I do trust you. All I can do at this point is put all of my faith in you lol.

[James Rhine]

My response:

Great, I'll do my best not to let either of you down this week. Thanks for talking Josh! Glad we were able to squash this.

[James Rhine]

Josh is my bitch. For now at least

[James Rhine]

Those PMs were sent after the HoH thread ordeal.

I told Brian I was ready to make nominations, and I thanked Russell for saying congrats (even though Josh did too). I only thanked Russell because Josh pissed me off for cussing at me.

Then Josh replies, saying that everyone knows he and Russell are getting nominated all for the purpose of backdooring Karen. With a smart-ass "Oops! Did I say that out loud?"

Then I replied:

*Shifts gears*

Congrats on staying another week Karen! Obviously you're the only one worth me using my HoH on, but Josh clearly wants to be evicted first. It would be rude not to give him what he wanted.

Then Josh sent all the PMs trying to save his ass.

lol