Week 5

[Chenbot]

Amy, you are taking your stand on your soapbox because of what a houseguest is saying when they are about to be evicted aka their most vulnerable position.

Here's the thing: Those of you who know Jen or played with her know that this Jen character is AGGRESSIVE. She will talk smack and beast in competitions. The only 2 people I can even think of that come extremely close (if not pass the line) are Enzo and Annie who are not even in the game at this point.

Rachel had to deal with Jen in 2 games where Jen let her know that she doesn't like her. It's mutual. She is using this "Jen is a bully" as a selling point to keep herself. If you saw her DR, you'd see how obsessed she is with her dislike of Jen. It'll be one of Jen's favorite DRs to read after the season to be honest. I understand that bully or cyberbullying is wrong and all, but don't go running up behind Rachel's words when 1. they are false and 2. they are a ploy to stay alive.

That is all I will say on the matter.

[Jun Song]

Thanking everyone who congratulates you is not that serious. Just say thank you everyone. Jesus Christ.

[Dustin Simon Erikstrup]

Julie, how do you know what April said is false? Is it said in her DR? What if this is really happening?

[Chenbot]

Feb 21, 2012 22:26:45 GMT -5 Dustin Simon Erikstrup said:

Julie, how do you know what April said is false? Is it said in her DR? What if this is really happening?

1. What are you talking about? April was evicted three weeks ago.
2. If you are talking about Rachel, she is not being bullied. She is 100% capable of standing her ground towards Jen, if you didn't notice, she has a mouth on her.
3. Like I said in earlier threads (but you aren't online enough to read) people from opposing sides aren't even talking on AIM because they just want to eliminate each other.

[Amy "Holy Fool" Crews]

Feb 21, 2012 19:13:58 GMT -5 Sharon Obermueller said:

Are people seriously thinking that Jen can hack into to AIM accounts? LOL

At what point was I pointing the finger at Jen?

I was saying that anyone who stoops to that level(Hacking AIM accounts) needs to get a fucking life.

[Amy "Holy Fool" Crews]

Feb 21, 2012 20:41:53 GMT -5 Chenbot said:

Amy, you are taking your stand on your soapbox because of what a houseguest is saying when they are about to be evicted aka their most vulnerable position.

Here's the thing: Those of you who know Jen or played with her know that this Jen character is AGGRESSIVE. She will talk smack and beast in competitions. The only 2 people I can even think of that come extremely close (if not pass the line) are Enzo and Annie who are not even in the game at this point.

Rachel had to deal with Jen in 2 games where Jen let her know that she doesn't like her. It's mutual. She is using this "Jen is a bully" as a selling point to keep herself. If you saw her DR, you'd see how obsessed she is with her dislike of Jen. It'll be one of Jen's favorite DRs to read after the season to be honest. I understand that bully or cyberbullying is wrong and all, but don't go running up behind Rachel's words when 1. they are false and 2. they are a ploy to stay alive.

That is all I will say on the matter.

Julie, before you accuse me of "being high on a soapbox" please pump the brakes.

In case you didn't know, I am friends with both Jen and Rachel and at no point did I accuse Jen of hacking Karen's AIM account. I was saying that if that was true, which I do believe Rachel that it is because I know Rachel is pretty straightforward about that, then that's fucked up and ridiculous. I'm sure that the story was partially exaggerated as a selling point to save herself, of course, but there has to be some level of truth to a story like that. I have a hard time seeing all of that being fabricated.

Also can I have my damn green border back, Julie?

[Nicole Schaffrich]

I actually feel really bad for Karen. If what everyone is saying is true, I would feel so completely violated if anything of mine was hacked, completely letting alone the idea of my children's Facebook accounts being accessed. (I don't have kids, of course, but I'm imagining.) If someone actually did that...just wow. That's just twisted and ridiculous.

I'm sad. I wish everyone could get along.

[Natalie Cunial]

Holy dramz. This week sucks, and I hope the tone reverts itself or otherwise it's going to be a looooooooong game.

No matter where the truth lies, Rachel has pulled out a big one (even if it is all lies) to be able to tarnish Jen's name to ensure she doesn't win. Or...for the matter, Jen was the only one to respond so far and therefore tarnished her own name by putting herself into an argument when no one's name was in anyone's mouth at that very moment (albeit implied).

I wonder if Jen's AGGRESSIVENESS just fell for a trap that needn't have been set in the first place.

All being said, I do feel for Karen.

[Amy "Holy Fool" Crews]

Feb 22, 2012 1:50:43 GMT -5 Natalie Cunial said:

Holy dramz. This week sucks, and I hope the tone reverts itself or otherwise it's going to be a looooooooong game.

No matter where the truth lies, Rachel has pulled out a big one (even if it is all lies) to be able to tarnish Jen's name to ensure she doesn't win. Or...for the matter, Jen was the only one to respond so far and therefore tarnished her own name by putting herself into an argument when no one's name was in anyone's mouth at that very moment (albeit implied).

I wonder if Jen's AGGRESSIVENESS just fell for a trap that needn't have been set in the first place.

All being said, I do feel for Karen.

Yeah, she definitely deserves a lot of credit for that. Sadly though, Rachel's probably cooked.

But yeah, Karen's account being hacked is so beyond uncalled for.

[Chenbot]

Amy, you did say Jen.

"If anyone approves of Jen's side doing this"

If not Jen, you are blaming her allies. What I'm saying is that you are taking your word from someone who is OBSESSED with Jen and who's most likely getting evicted. I can name countless people who have made up lies to try to stay in the game. You just need to realize that what you said makes Jen and her allies look bad, just as Rachel is trying to do. Mentioning that cyberbullying is wrong is find, but saying that Rachel is right in accusssing Jen and her allies (with no proof) is wrong.



Also, tinypic (once again since I think it happened in AS) didn't like your pic, so I had to quickly make a new one. I will fix it, when I can get on AIM and not have hundreds of IMs.

[Chenbot]

Feb 22, 2012 1:21:46 GMT -5 Nicole Schaffrich said:

I actually feel really bad for Karen. If what everyone is saying is true, I would feel so completely violated if anything of mine was hacked, completely letting alone the idea of my children's Facebook accounts being accessed. (I don't have kids, of course, but I'm imagining.) If someone actually did that...just wow. That's just twisted and ridiculous.

I'm sad. I wish everyone could get along.

I think you are confused. Her AIM account was hacked, not Facebook. Her AIM pw was had to do with her kids bdays, which are on her Facebook. That's why Jen looks so suspicious since she went out of her way to find Karen's facebook to proof that she is Kristen (since she and Kristen don't like each other). AND ITS NOT EVEN KRISTEN!

I had a talk with her and she didn't know of any hacking until Rachel brought it up in the Veto Meeting. It sucks though, cause she's the most guilty looking one, but it's innocent until proven guilty and as smart as Jen is...I don't think she can hack....I mean I can't even hack. (not that I've tried) Annie also came and cried about how her name was mentioned . After talking with her, I don't think she hacked (as she was so offended that I accussed her ~drama queen~).

So idk...birthdays are a terrible pw in the first place...Jen should have listened to me when I said Kristen wasn't playing in this game, no matter how "alike" Karen and Kristen might seem...I don't know who the hacker is or could be, it's like playing a real life game of the Mole...

[Amy "Holy Fool" Crews]

Feb 22, 2012 8:27:05 GMT -5 Chenbot said:

Amy, you did say Jen.

"If anyone approves of Jen's side doing this"

If not Jen, you are blaming her allies. What I'm saying is that you are taking your word from someone who is OBSESSED with Jen and who's most likely getting evicted. I can name countless people who have made up lies to try to stay in the game. You just need to realize that what you said makes Jen and her allies look bad, just as Rachel is trying to do. Mentioning that cyberbullying is wrong is find, but saying that Rachel is right in accusssing Jen and her allies (with no proof) is wrong.



Also, tinypic (once again since I think it happened in AS) didn't like your pic, so I had to quickly make a new one. I will fix it, when I can get on AIM and not have hundreds of IMs.

I will admit to pointing the finger at Jen's side...I mean I have a hard time believing someone not in the game or someone not on Jen's side hacked Karen's account. I don't think Jen was the one who did it, and I'll go on record to say that, but I don't know anyone else personally on Jen's side as far as I know and therefore I have a hard time not at least pinning blame on one of them. I don't accuse any one of them directly, but the proof is in the pudding to me: Karen's account WAS hacked by someone. I don't think some random internet troll would randomly stumble upon Karen's not even real AIM and start hacking it....that makes no sense, that's all I'm saying.

[Nicole Schaffrich]

Chenbot, being confused is my MO lol.

At the end of the day, I'm with Amy on this one. Whoever hacked her AIM was either one of her enemies in the game or someone who's really close to one of her enemies in the game (and has too much free time). It's a game and, while it should be cutthroat and competitive, there are lines that shouldn't be crossed; there needs to be a level of (waaaait for it) respect for everyone in the game as people, and that includes respecting their personal privacy.

I'm not intending to make a statement about anyone in particular. I don't have a clue who it is and I'm not going to try to find out. I just think it sucks that someone can behave like that. ...I need a hug.

[Jun Song]

Just to throw it out there, what if its the person they least expect to do this "hacking?" :X I blame Brian & Chen! <3

[Jason Guy]

Clearly Tonya is behind all of this, that witch must BURN!