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[Rachel Plencner]

^ In your response to the next pre-jurors, Shelly is so pissed off with how this game is going. Shelly has been on the verge of quitting many times since her HoH went to waste and the only people who know that are Karen and I. I've talked her out of it many of times as well. That's why she didn't go up as a replacement nom, because they knew if she did, she'd just quit and I'd stay in the game. That's why the hacking bothers me, is because they had all the info they needed to get me out. In addition, as I said before I'm in disbelief with how Karen's account was trolled and it bothers me that she was attacked for essentially no reason other than to cheat and be mean, so it's just a double whammy on so many levels.

[Libra Fucking Thompson]

Karen has been hanging in there. So don't count her out yet. She can win competitions and keep herself safe. I just noticed we got access to the house. And I must say that if Karen found a phone number connected to her logs she should have researched and reported it to AIM about it. Otherwise I think we can't put blame on anyone without a proof that her AIM was hacked. The other things about Facebook and such is just plain wrong tho.

[Libra Fucking Thompson]

I think that if they wanted you out tho they would hack your account? Dunno, I think whoever hacked Karen must be someone close to her that she doesn't know. I've never heard about "hacking" AIMs other than knowing their password or the answer to the secret question.

[Libra Fucking Thompson]

With all of the cheating going on we should be given another shot. Right Julie?!

[Libra Fucking Thompson]

I just added a karma point to Rachel. I think it's childish to smite people.

[Enzo Palumbo]

Feb 22, 2012 21:43:02 GMT -5 Libra Fucking Thompson said:

I think that if they wanted you out tho they would hack your account? Dunno, I think whoever hacked Karen must be someone close to her that she doesn't know. I've never heard about "hacking" AIMs other than knowing their password or the answer to the secret question.

Are you kidding me? Lol Someone she knows? So they'd purposely sabotage her game while they're working with her in the game. Yeah, that makes A LOT of sense.

I've heard that Jen is trying to blame me for this bullshit because I'm the only one who's actually friends with Karen on FB. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. Jen is just trying to pass blame on to anyone else she can. The heat is on her and for very good reason. She admitted to finding Karen's FB with Luis, Karen's pw's were here childrens bdays which I believe were on her profile. So then magically her aim is hacked? I don't understand how much more proof is needed, especially upon Karen's FB being found AND her aim hacked all happened around the same time. Seriously...

[Rachel Plencner]

The problem is, if it's someone close to her, why would they change her gender to male and her name to Karen Sucks? I don't get why someone would do that unless they didn't like her, and considering it has to be someone from this game, the only people that don't like her are Jen, Lori, Russell, etc, because she isn't sucking their butts.

Edit: Also to Libra! Thank you for the karma babe! When I got nominated my karma dropped like 3 points, and I was like wtf. Jen thinks it's cool to play with the karma and I'm just like ok, sure. Giving people negative karma for no reason is just so mature.

[Libra Fucking Thompson]

Feb 22, 2012 21:49:04 GMT -5 Enzo Palumbo said:

Feb 22, 2012 21:43:02 GMT -5 Libra Fucking Thompson said:

I think that if they wanted you out tho they would hack your account? Dunno, I think whoever hacked Karen must be someone close to her that she doesn't know. I've never heard about "hacking" AIMs other than knowing their password or the answer to the secret question.

Are you kidding me? Lol Someone she knows? So they'd purposely sabotage her game while they're working with her in the game. Yeah, that makes A LOT of sense.

I've heard that Jen is trying to blame me for this bullshit because I'm the only one who's actually friends with Karen on FB. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. Jen is just trying to pass blame on to anyone else she can. The heat is on her and for very good reason. She admitted to finding Karen's FB with Luis, Karen's pw's were here childrens bdays which I believe were on her profile. So then magically her aim is hacked? I don't understand how much more proof is needed, especially upon Karen's FB being found AND her aim hacked all happened around the same time. Seriously...

I didn't know any of this. I don't know anyone outside the game so I apologize if I come off as ignorant. I'm trying to understand how it exactly went down. I see how everything adds up now. Karen definitely needs to report this to AIM. Who knows if they can track down who did it. Or she should try finding out whose phone number was connected to the chat logs. I hope everything gets settled and that it doesn't happen again. Situations like this ruin the integrity of the game and it's really awkward to see how personal it gets.

[Enzo Palumbo]

Feb 22, 2012 21:54:34 GMT -5 Libra Fucking Thompson said:

Situations like this ruin the integrity of the game and it's really awkward to see how personal it gets.

Mhmm and it sucks the fun right out of the game. It's really hard to watch at this point.

[Rachel Plencner]

Yea towards the end it's one of the reasons I opened my mouth. There was no point to stay quiet anymore. I was the target, I needed a miracle to stay anyways, and what benefit does anyone except for their side of the house get by me staying quiet? Like seriously these last few weeks haven't been fun at all. I totally get why Shelly wanted to quit, and the only reason I didn't was because I wanted to prove people wrong, and I play to win, not to be broken down because Jen is a "character". In all honesty ever since I lost power during my HoH the whole game hasnt been fun, and this cheating scandal just adds to how disgusting it's all really gotten.

[Chenbot]

The thing is that yes I know how suspicious of Jen you are, but why would this be the first time she would do it? If that were the case she would have hacked in Seasons 2, 4, and 8. Does Jen want to win? Yes. Does she want to win that bad? No.

And it's Luis who threw your name out Enzo, not Jen. Enzo, you should be the most understanding of being accused of something. I just want to move ahead with the game...

[Chenbot]

Also, Shelly wanting to quit is because she is weak (sorry if that's harsh), but anyone who wants to quit because things don't go there way will get NO sympathy from me. If she wants to quit, she can go ahead and not waste my time.

[Enzo Palumbo]

Yep, I know exactly what it's like to be accused of something that you didn't do. So I know the frustrations of it. I feel you on that. But when I was accused, I also didn't act like a fucking twatsicle and thought my shit didn't stink. Just saying...

Here is my question and anyone can answer if they wish or don't, it doesnt matter.
Are you still wrong for being apart of the "hacking" even if you didn't do it yourself? Is it okay for you to hack someones aim, find pw's and then read their logs for the purposes of using it to your advantage in the game even if you weren't the one who directly hacked in the first place?

I only ask these because let's say Jen didn't do it... I can actually buy that. She's not that bright to begin with, but when you've got someone who is completely malicious for starters, HATES Julie and her series, on top of finding out that Karen is my friend which bothers certain people because they hate me as well, you use that person to do your dirty work to gain an edge in the game. Does that make sense and is it okay to do it?

[Rachel Plencner]

It's wrong no matter what way you slice it, and as I've said, to change her personal information at the same time takes it to a whole new level of whackness.

At the end of the day we aren't going to get anywhere beating this dead horse because it absolutely floors me just as much as the next person, since it's essentially a contributing factor to my eviction. The only way this will be solved is if Karen contacts the AIM company and gets the phone number, and even that may not prove anything, because it'll still be her word that that's the phone number AIM gave her, and whoever is responsible for it will either keep quiet or just deny it. It sucks so hard there's no way to prove this.

[Libra Fucking Thompson]

I hope Karen can solve this now. The whole game will be based around the whole hacking situation until it's solved.